This article is more in the lines of massive misuse of astrology rather than just a scathing assessment of the model in question which is faulty and flawed beyond question. The prediction of so called Scientific Astrologer "Greenstone Lobo" of England winning the World Cup went horribly wrong leading to numerous criticisms online. He took an authoritarian stance and quipped with assertive confidence that the cup was finally coming home to the land of the old blighty after 60 years but alas it was not to be. My thought process was that even if England did in fact have claimed the FIFA World Cup 2026, it was definitely not because of his prediction which is completely illogical and baseless.
I admit he has got some predictions right in the past but that's not because of his competence with astrology and in fact more on the outcome and capabilities of the teams in question. I would not have casted any aspersions if this methodology was not branded under the moniker of "Astrology" but that's where the whole fiasco lies. This is not an ultracrepidarian take without understanding the pattern, logic and algorithm used but based on observation this testing methodology does not hold any water.
Mr Greenstone Lobo is an eloquent speaker and he uses terms which seem beyond comprehension for the common man. He comes across as a supremely confident individual but also very stubborn and unyielding with his view points and refuses to accept that his methodology is not fool proof by any distance. He himself has deviated a lot based upon his approach many a times and shifts the goal post as per his whims and fancies.
For the uninitiated and those interested in how does his predictions, let me elaborate and elucidate on his style of arriving at an outcome. His first state of contention is that 9 planets cannot do the trick and in fact brings upon a 16 planet theory mechanism. Secondly, he also dismisses the sign based traditional system and assigns one zodiac sign for 12 different planets. Thirdly he puts forward a power hierarchy stating the order of strength of planets and weirdly states that Pluto is the most powerful planet in the universe. He also brings forth 3 asteroid bodies which he names as Planet X, Y and Z and equates them to Varuna, Yama and Prajapati and worse mentions that Maharishi Parashara advocated this delineation.
Listed below is the Power Hierarchy of Planets as per the 16 planetary Scientific Method of Astrology:
1) Pluto - Own sign Scorpio, Exaltation Sign Leo, Key Exaltation Points termed as Eagle - 2°, Grey Lizard - 10°, Scorpion - 24°
2) Planet X (2007 RH283) - Own sign Taurus, Exaltation Sign Aquarius, Exaltation Point 27°
3) Neptune - Own sign Pisces, Exaltation Sign Cancer, Exaltation Point 26°
4) Uranus - Own sign Aquarius, Exaltation Sign Scorpio, Exaltation Point 10°
5) Planet Z (2008 FC76) - Own sign Leo, Exaltation Sign Libra, Exaltation Point 9°
6) Planet Y (1999 JV127) - Own sign Virgo, Exaltation Sign Gemini, Exaltation Point No degree in particular
7) Chiron - Own sign Cancer, Exaltation Sign Aries/Sagittarius, Exaltation Point No degree in particular
8) Full Moon/New Moon
9) Saturn - Own sign Capricorn
10) Jupiter - Own sign Sagittarius
11) Sun - No own sign
12) Mars - Own sign Aries
13) Venus - Own sign Libra
14) Mercury - Own sign Gemini
15) Moon - No own sign
16) Rahu/Ketu (Nodes) - No own sign
If you see in the above list, only from 9th place does a Navagraha as per Vedic Astrology even come into question. He considers Full Moon/New Moon but that's also purely based on the position of Sun & Moon being in same sign or opposite signs, so even Tithis close to Full/New Moon may also be classified under this category on account of lack of birth time. Also the 12 zodiac signs of Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius, Pisces are ruled by the planets Mars, Planet X, Mercury, Chiron, Planet Z, Planet Y, Venus, Pluto, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune respectively.
He says the outer planets viz Pluto, Uranus and Neptune are much stronger than planets such as Jupiter, Saturn, Venus etc. He feels Rahu/Ketu have minimal impact on one's life compared to the other planets, hence given least priority dumping them at the bottom of the pile. On top of this he claims that 3 form of asteroids coined with the names Planet X (2007 RH283), Planet Y (1999 JV127) and Planet Z (2008 FC76) have a major impact in one's life. Based on this power hierarchy of strongest to weakest bodies, if someone has let's say Uranus & Neptune exalted in their charts as opposed to Jupiter & Venus exalted, the one with Uranus & Neptune will always achieve more prominence and be far more successful in life as they are more influential than Jupiter and Venus.
To quote an example of this power hierarchy, he says Shah Rukh Khan as a film actor will always be more successful than a Hrithik Roshan because Shah Rukh has his Pluto exalted in Leo (stronger planet) compared to Hrithik who only has a very strong Planet Z because Pluto is the strongest in the zodiac and gets exalted once in 300 years. Also he quotes one of India's most famous actors Amitabh Bachchan's success is attributed to having an extremely strong exalted Planet X in his Ascendant which over rules all negative placements in 8th house.
Over time he also came up with some bizarre ideologies mentioning that planets Jupiter and Saturn have multiple exaltation and debilitation points. Listed below is his diabolic research on the 2 greatest Dharma Karma planets of Jupiter & Saturn.
1) Claims that Jupiter and Saturn have multiple exaltation and debilitation points.
2) Jupiter and Saturn gets exalted in the 3rd, 5th, 8th and 10th sign from Sagittarius and Capricorn respectively.
3) Hence Jupiter gets exalted in Aquarius, Aries, Cancer (usual exaltation sign) and Virgo whereas Saturn gets exalted in Pisces, Taurus, Leo and Libra (usual exaltation sign)
4) Similarly Jupiter and Saturn get debilitated in the 9th, 11th, 2nd and 4th sign from Sagittarius and Capricorn respectively.
5) Thus Jupiter gets debilitated in Leo, Libra, Capricorn (usual debilitated sign) and Pisces whereas Saturn gets debilitated in Virgo, Scorpio, Aquarius and Aries (usual deb sign)
6) He throws up many celebrity charts such as Martin Luther King, Rafael Nadal, Boris Becker, Tiger Woods, Meena Kumari, Swami Vivekanand, Mahatma Gandhi, Albert Einstein, MS Dhoni, Elvis Presley, Ambani etc. to corroborate this new found research theory to explain how it works well in these charts.
The biggest shock of this brain barraging analysis is to hear that Jupiter gets debilitated in it's own sign of Pisces. He claims Jupiter's presence in Pisces is very bad and quotes example of Tiger Woods who is a Virgo Ascendant having Jupiter in 7th house of Pisces which destroyed his marital relationship and where many affairs came out in open. Mentions also of Johnny Depp who had truck load of law suits as his Jupiter is debilitated in Pisces in 9th house. Also says Jupiter in Leo gets debilitated and quotes an example of German tennis player Boris Becker who is Scorpio Ascendant. Says that his 2nd lord of money gets debilitated in 10th house of career which made him go bankrupt. Likewise on similar lines, also quotes illustrations about Saturn getting debilitated in own sign of Aquarius.
Thankfully this crazy level of finding was stopped and he hardly ever spoke of this mega out of the world theory in subsequent videos but in his recent video of why Spain lifted the World Cup, he mentions of Saturn being exalted in Pisces while explaining the Spanish captain chart. Another excuse was that Nasa may have erred in pointing out the entry point of planets. He feels that if Rodrigo Hernandez was born somewhere around August of 1996, his planets suddenly illuminate in all kinds of lustrous light and would have paved the way into winning the title easily for the Spanish El Matador.
In the last few years however, his estimate is largely centered around 3 factors. He doesn't even seem to give much importance to his own planetary finding of Pluto, Uranus, Neptune, Planet X, Y, Z being strongly placed but instead harbours on these 3 points specifically and uses planets only as a standby. When taking the outer planets, it's a given that they stay very long in a sign so they don't change signs normally across years. This ultra bombastic theory works on the following grounds:
1) Year of Birth of Captain/Star Player
2) Algorithmic Pattern of Birth Years of Previous Winners based on Natural Progression
3) Karmic Quota Theory
Just based on hardly few samples belonging to the sports of Cricket, Football, Sports he comes up with the Year of Birth being a key metric. His algorithmic pattern states that some years are more favourable than others like for instance he says 1981, 1986, 1987 are blockbuster years and in the 1990s, it is 1990 then 1993 and 1998. The funny thing is that as per his own identification, he never considered 1993 as a powerful year but since Pat Cummins won the 2023 ODI World Cup against all odds, he was gunning for 93 being a prime stellar year. That was his big fat sound reasoning of Harry Kane likely to capture the FIFA World Cup as he was also a 1993 born. 81 is a super year based on 3 individuals viz Roger Federer of Tennis, Iker Casillas, Spains Football captain who won major trophies and of course MS Dhoni who captained India to cricketing stardom. 86 is due to Nadal mainly and 87 owns its success to Novak Djokovic, Lionel Messi and Rohit Sharma. Based on this he also confidently asserts and states that India's cricketing superstar Virat Kohli couldn't have been born in the year 1988 and should be a 86 or 87 born instead.
Another ludicrous tearing the hair concept is the one of Karma Theory. He states a outlandish line regularly stating that some players have exhausted their karmic quota by winning already and cannot win again. I really wonder who are we to decide on someone's karma. The prime reason of Messi not winning the World Cup is on account of exhausting his karma due to already winning the World Cup and a host of other titles. There are also other baseless crazy theories of equating a Cricket World Cup victory with 5 IPL Titles and stating that a FIFA World Cup is greater than a EURO Cup and arriving at Karma conclusions accordingly.
Wonder what connection this has to do with the beautiful science of Astrology. Astrology is a wonderful tool and it's also extremely difficult to dissect results. There are always chances of an astrologer going wrong despite taking all necessary precautions but equating this mad method of progression combined with karmic quota and year of birth and branding it under astrology is quite simply blasphemous. The worst thing is that people in the comments section abuse astrology as if it's absolutely good for nothing and useless when predictions go haywire but the irony is that this scientific methodology used by this so called famed astrologer is anything remotely connected to astrology in the truest sense of the word. Really sad to see the state of affairs of astrology and even more so is the fact that those who know zilch about it are the ones calling the shots and selling like hot cakes in the market. What really pains is the fact that this particular methodology is in no way adhering to the principles or guidelines of Vedic Astrology but is getting camouflaged under the guise of Astrology unfortunately bringing disrepute to it's credibility. Its just not an aberration but actually absurdity and eventually in the end something as sacred like astrology ends up taking the brunt.
